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	<title>Comments on: Kent Tong on Tapestry and Wicket</title>
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		<title>By: hari sujathan</title>
		<link>http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2007/09/26/kent-tong-on-tapestry-and-wicket/#comment-19467</link>
		<dc:creator>hari sujathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,

  if there is a active development project being done in tapestry 4. Does it make sense to migrate to wicket or tapestry 5?

Moreover wicket reminds me of game cricket. India won last 20-20 world cup cricket competition beating Australia in semi and pakistan in finals. 

Apart from that , I want to know of Howard's choice after tapestry between JSF and wicket!!!! 

thanks &#38; regards,
Hari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,</p>
<p>  if there is a active development project being done in tapestry 4. Does it make sense to migrate to wicket or tapestry 5?</p>
<p>Moreover wicket reminds me of game cricket. India won last 20-20 world cup cricket competition beating Australia in semi and pakistan in finals. </p>
<p>Apart from that , I want to know of Howard&#8217;s choice after tapestry between JSF and wicket!!!! </p>
<p>thanks &amp; regards,<br />
Hari.</p>
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		<title>By: Eelco Hillenius</title>
		<link>http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2007/09/26/kent-tong-on-tapestry-and-wicket/#comment-13010</link>
		<dc:creator>Eelco Hillenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is one for starters: http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2006/12/tapestry-5-progress-localization-assets.html#comment-2953367553692589420.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is one for starters: <a href="http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2006/12/tapestry-5-progress-localization-assets.html#comment-2953367553692589420" rel="nofollow">http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2006/12/tapestry-5-progress-localization-assets.html#comment-2953367553692589420</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2007/09/26/kent-tong-on-tapestry-and-wicket/#comment-13005</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped using Tapestry the day that I read a post on TSS by HLS. The thread was about Tap being released (I forget which version). Somebody (I forget who - but definitely not a Wicket committer) posted a comment saying something like, "if you like Tapestry, try Wicket!" Now, I'm not AT ALL defending that kind of post. Nevertheless, I lost respect for HLS when he replied, "Bullshit. Wicket does not do this, or that.." I can't remember the details but his post went on and on about how Wicket was inferior to Tap, and he did so in a very arrogant way. That really goes against the grain for me. Not much later, the post was edited on TSS (so don't go looking for it, the edited post is much more polite, I doubt HLS wrote it himself!)

Anyway, since then I've dropped Tap from my web framework shortlist, and I'm glad I did when I did (T3), before wasting time on a framework that starts over at every version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped using Tapestry the day that I read a post on TSS by HLS. The thread was about Tap being released (I forget which version). Somebody (I forget who - but definitely not a Wicket committer) posted a comment saying something like, &#8220;if you like Tapestry, try Wicket!&#8221; Now, I&#8217;m not AT ALL defending that kind of post. Nevertheless, I lost respect for HLS when he replied, &#8220;Bullshit. Wicket does not do this, or that..&#8221; I can&#8217;t remember the details but his post went on and on about how Wicket was inferior to Tap, and he did so in a very arrogant way. That really goes against the grain for me. Not much later, the post was edited on TSS (so don&#8217;t go looking for it, the edited post is much more polite, I doubt HLS wrote it himself!)</p>
<p>Anyway, since then I&#8217;ve dropped Tap from my web framework shortlist, and I&#8217;m glad I did when I did (T3), before wasting time on a framework that starts over at every version.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kuhnert</title>
		<link>http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2007/09/26/kent-tong-on-tapestry-and-wicket/#comment-12996</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Kuhnert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who was defending Tapestry?   I think it speaks for itself when being compared to a poor copy...</description>
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		<title>By: Eelco Hillenius</title>
		<link>http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2007/09/26/kent-tong-on-tapestry-and-wicket/#comment-12990</link>
		<dc:creator>Eelco Hillenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kent is simply iterating what I've heard a dozen times by now from people who used to use Tapestry.

I find the whole genius thing a bit off-putting tbh. It's the single most annoying thing about the tapestry community to me. It comes across like a sect. Jonathan is definitively a better coder than I am, and one of the most intelligent and creative guys I know (not just in software). But I hope someone will shoot me on the spot if I would ever try to use that as a defense for Wicket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent is simply iterating what I&#8217;ve heard a dozen times by now from people who used to use Tapestry.</p>
<p>I find the whole genius thing a bit off-putting tbh. It&#8217;s the single most annoying thing about the tapestry community to me. It comes across like a sect. Jonathan is definitively a better coder than I am, and one of the most intelligent and creative guys I know (not just in software). But I hope someone will shoot me on the spot if I would ever try to use that as a defense for Wicket.</p>
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