Comments on: I hate Internet Explorer http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/ Ramblings on Java, Wicket, cats and other stuff Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:15:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: ComputerLuvr http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/comment-page-1/#comment-60304 ComputerLuvr Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:26:52 +0000 http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/#comment-60304 I hate IE and I can't stand Microsoft either. I think that they should pass a law in North America where we don't have to have IE as a browser on our computers when we buy a new one with Windows OS. I've created websites and they look really crappy in IE, but, just fine in FF, Google Chrome, Safari and a lot of other browsers. Heard the developers at Google are coming up with an OS. Good for them. It's about time those arrogant people at Microsoft are shown that their operating system is a joke. Look at Vista for example. Bill Gates is a joke too. I predict the end of Microsoft. People will start to say Microsoft? Who's that? I hate IE and I can’t stand Microsoft either. I think that they should pass a law in North America where we don’t have to have IE as a browser on our computers when we buy a new one with Windows OS. I’ve created websites and they look really crappy in IE, but, just fine in FF, Google Chrome, Safari and a lot of other browsers. Heard the developers at Google are coming up with an OS. Good for them. It’s about time those arrogant people at Microsoft are shown that their operating system is a joke. Look at Vista for example. Bill Gates is a joke too. I predict the end of Microsoft. People will start to say Microsoft? Who’s that?

]]> By: Erwinus http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/comment-page-1/#comment-60262 Erwinus Tue, 08 Mar 2011 01:06:55 +0000 http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/#comment-60262 Okay guys, just one thing. Stop using hacks for IE. When it’s ugly in IE (but still working when it is not too much trouble), leave it that way so users of your sites can see the difference between browsers. Place a note on your website that it will looking better in other browsers like firefox, chrome or safari so they cannot blame you. Let your users know there are alternatives (not only the blue e that is associated with internet). Users must see the difference, don’t use hacks to get the same look, that’s stupid and that’s the fault. They don’t see your pain to get it compatible with this horrible piece of shit. Don’t use images when you can do it with CSS, that’s the difference between browsers. Developers can break IE if they want but every developer on the planet must do this. When we do it all together and the user of the website can see the difference, there is an reason to switch. When user cannot see the difference there is no reason for them to switch! Stop IE hacks and inform your clients about alternatives, it’s free and not bad,almost it’s better. When every developer do this it can change the world of browsing. Site visitors must not blame you about the looks, the must blame Microsoft but they have to be informed that there are alternatives to use and that is really better and matters. Stop IE Hacks now! Okay guys, just one thing. Stop using hacks for IE. When it’s ugly in IE (but still working when it is not too much trouble), leave it that way so users of your sites can see the difference between browsers. Place a note on your website that it will looking better in other browsers like firefox, chrome or safari so they cannot blame you. Let your users know there are alternatives (not only the blue e that is associated with internet). Users must see the difference, don’t use hacks to get the same look, that’s stupid and that’s the fault. They don’t see your pain to get it compatible with this horrible piece of shit. Don’t use images when you can do it with CSS, that’s the difference between browsers.

Developers can break IE if they want but every developer on the planet must do this. When we do it all together and the user of the website can see the difference, there is an reason to switch. When user cannot see the difference there is no reason for them to switch!

Stop IE hacks and inform your clients about alternatives, it’s free and not bad,almost it’s better. When every developer do this it can change the world of browsing. Site visitors must not blame you about the looks, the must blame Microsoft but they have to be informed that there are alternatives to use and that is really better and matters.

Stop IE Hacks now!

]]> By: djburner http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/comment-page-1/#comment-60177 djburner Wed, 16 Feb 2011 00:53:52 +0000 http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/#comment-60177 I cannot believe this, I was so frustrated about a CSS nighmare created in IE8 that I just serched for I HATE IE, and then I realized that I wrote a hate message almost 3 years AGO!!!!! Cannot believe the lifetime that IE has SUCKED out of me in this 3 year. When I read my OWN message from 3 years ago and see that the most people is stuck at this SHITTY browser made my anger becomes into something more like a really sad blue. Im not anger anymore, I just want to sitdown a begin to cry. I have no problem to openly express in my webs a message like, For a better navigation use FF or Chrome. Plain a simple. I cannot believe this, I was so frustrated about a CSS nighmare created in IE8 that I just serched for I HATE IE, and then I realized that I wrote a hate message almost 3 years AGO!!!!!

Cannot believe the lifetime that IE has SUCKED out of me in this 3 year. When I read my OWN message from 3 years ago and see that the most people is stuck at this SHITTY browser made my anger becomes into something more like a really sad blue. Im not anger anymore, I just want to sitdown a begin to cry.

I have no problem to openly express in my webs a message like, For a better navigation use FF or Chrome. Plain a simple.

]]> By: Mathieu http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/comment-page-1/#comment-60112 Mathieu Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:54:27 +0000 http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/#comment-60112 Oh yeah. This ball needs to start rolling. I dream of the days Internet Explorer is history. Every day it amazes may how this piece of genuine crap can still exist! Microsoft has shown they don't give a ###, their time is up already! We need to respond. They will never come up with a decent browser. They have told us and that they are not capable. When do we start to listen? Oh yeah. This ball needs to start rolling. I dream of the days Internet Explorer is history. Every day it amazes may how this piece of genuine crap can still exist! Microsoft has shown they don’t give a ###, their time is up already! We need to respond. They will never come up with a decent browser. They have told us and that they are not capable. When do we start to listen?

]]> By: webman1000 http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/comment-page-1/#comment-58264 webman1000 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:09:01 +0000 http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2008/03/20/i-hate-internet-explorer/#comment-58264 Javascript is an interpreted language, and like most interpretative languages it gives a ton of freedom. Especially in its concepts of types. Meaning (coming from a structured programming background C,C++) etc it almost lets you get away with murder.. A variable as var i=1 and then i="hello there" is allowed (changing from integers to strings) etc.. Where IE fails miserable is it tries to force structured programing strictness in an almost free for all programming environment. The biggest problems Ive seen are this free for all type assignment. For example any mozilla based browser lets you freely give any value to any object that you want. As in object.style.height=adjkasdjsak; Whereas IE in a double standard says that an interpretative language has to perform like a structured language but only when its convenient for IE. For example setting the DOM style properties on any object as height to some bogus value causes IE to fail whereas mozilla ignores it. Using reserved words as "value" etc or any word that IE determines is a reserved property causes IE to punt. As var value=1 (fails in IE because value is a reserved word). Most conflicts in IE programming vs Mozilla seem to rest in IE´s desire to force C style rules in javascript. Javascript is an interpreted language, and like most interpretative languages it gives a ton of freedom. Especially in its concepts of types. Meaning (coming from a structured programming background C,C++) etc it almost lets you get away with murder.. A variable as var i=1 and then i=”hello there” is allowed (changing from integers to strings) etc.. Where IE fails miserable is it tries to force structured programing strictness in an almost free for all programming environment. The biggest problems Ive seen are this free for all type assignment. For example any mozilla based browser lets you freely give any value to any object that you want. As in object.style.height=adjkasdjsak; Whereas IE in a double standard says that an interpretative language has to perform like a structured language but only when its convenient for IE. For example setting the DOM style properties on any object as height to some bogus value causes IE to fail whereas mozilla ignores it. Using reserved words as “value” etc or any word that IE determines is a reserved property causes IE to punt. As var value=1 (fails in IE because value is a reserved word). Most conflicts in IE programming vs Mozilla seem to rest in IE´s desire to force C style rules in javascript.

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