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	<title>Comments on: The sorry state of subversion support in Eclipse</title>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2009/05/05/the-sorry-state-of-subversion-support-in-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-57872</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Install Netbeans and you have subversion. Install eclipse and read half the Internet trying to find a bleeding plugin scattered over the net that *might* work with your version. For the love of God please make subversion core. It&#039;s a freaking nightmare as it stands. And totally agree about the naming convention somebody wrote. Get rid of the marketing twats and just use version numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Install Netbeans and you have subversion. Install eclipse and read half the Internet trying to find a bleeding plugin scattered over the net that *might* work with your version. For the love of God please make subversion core. It&#8217;s a freaking nightmare as it stands. And totally agree about the naming convention somebody wrote. Get rid of the marketing twats and just use version numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: ANB</title>
		<link>http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2009/05/05/the-sorry-state-of-subversion-support-in-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-57856</link>
		<dc:creator>ANB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience with Subclipse is that it&#039;s trickier to learn how to work with than it should be, and that if you don&#039;t take the time to learn its quirks, you can get yourself into trouble.  Otoh if you _do_ take that time, it works very well.  I&#039;ve only run into two issues:  (1) Rarely but occasionally the Subclipse view will get out of sync with the checkout, a glitch that can be fixed simply by restarting Eclipse; and (2) Changing svn properties with Subclipse requires an extra update step, again to keep Subclipse in sync with the checkout.  Those two minor flaws aside, Subclipse works just as it should.

Summary: not 100% perfect, but highly usable IF you&#039;re willing to take a couple of hours to learn how to use it.

I currently run Galileo &quot;IDE for Java Developers&quot; (+ updates) and  Subclipse 1.6.5 and CollabNet Merge Client 1.10.0, along with misc other 3rd party plugins. I run regularly on all three Eclipse platforms: linux (CentOS 5.x), windows (XP and 7) and osx (10.5 and 10.6).

So far I haven&#039;t found any reason to try Subversive, so no comments on that package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience with Subclipse is that it&#8217;s trickier to learn how to work with than it should be, and that if you don&#8217;t take the time to learn its quirks, you can get yourself into trouble.  Otoh if you _do_ take that time, it works very well.  I&#8217;ve only run into two issues:  (1) Rarely but occasionally the Subclipse view will get out of sync with the checkout, a glitch that can be fixed simply by restarting Eclipse; and (2) Changing svn properties with Subclipse requires an extra update step, again to keep Subclipse in sync with the checkout.  Those two minor flaws aside, Subclipse works just as it should.</p>
<p>Summary: not 100% perfect, but highly usable IF you&#8217;re willing to take a couple of hours to learn how to use it.</p>
<p>I currently run Galileo &#8220;IDE for Java Developers&#8221; (+ updates) and  Subclipse 1.6.5 and CollabNet Merge Client 1.10.0, along with misc other 3rd party plugins. I run regularly on all three Eclipse platforms: linux (CentOS 5.x), windows (XP and 7) and osx (10.5 and 10.6).</p>
<p>So far I haven&#8217;t found any reason to try Subversive, so no comments on that package.</p>
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		<title>By: mielikki</title>
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		<dc:creator>mielikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking around to see which Subversion plug-in to use with Eclipse and had a lot of fun reading the comments. I think I&#039;ll just stick with the command line svn for now. Sounds like it will save me some headaches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking around to see which Subversion plug-in to use with Eclipse and had a lot of fun reading the comments. I think I&#8217;ll just stick with the command line svn for now. Sounds like it will save me some headaches.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is true... SVN support in Eclipse is just unusable. I&#039;ve developed patterns of &quot;try this three times, then do something else, try it again twice&quot; and I am ever amazed how much things are messed up. And they do not improve ever! Every year or so I try it again, and after some time of agony go back to CVS, which may not be as cool, but at least works. This is so sad....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is true&#8230; SVN support in Eclipse is just unusable. I&#8217;ve developed patterns of &#8220;try this three times, then do something else, try it again twice&#8221; and I am ever amazed how much things are messed up. And they do not improve ever! Every year or so I try it again, and after some time of agony go back to CVS, which may not be as cool, but at least works. This is so sad&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikita Prokopov</title>
		<link>http://martijndashorst.com/blog/2009/05/05/the-sorry-state-of-subversion-support-in-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-57810</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikita Prokopov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may also need to add &quot;exclude **/.svn&quot; to all you source folders in java build path, so eclipse won&#039;t copy them to target/ and SVN plugin will not see them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may also need to add &#8220;exclude **/.svn&#8221; to all you source folders in java build path, so eclipse won&#8217;t copy them to target/ and SVN plugin will not see them</p>
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